Despite working in two completely different industries, “Morning Joe” co-host Mika Brzezinski and Salesforce president and chief marketing officer Sarah Franklin have a lot in common. They both have incredibly demanding jobs. They are both moms of two daughters. They both went through divorce. They do their best thinking during their daily morning runs. They struggled with rejection throughout their careers.
And despite it all, they both came out on top.
“I’m driven by the women that paved a path for me and all of the women I hope to open doors for,” Franklin recently told Brzezinski as part of Know Your Value’s “Women In Charge” series. “It’s my philosophy that there is always something we can do to help someone else …”
Franklin started out as a chemical engineer before moving into technical and product marketing and often found she was the only woman on her team. Witnessing the inequality of women and minorities in STEM inspired her to launch Trailhead, Salesforce’s learning platform, which helps people – particularly women and minorities – get re-skilled and launch STEM careers.
Franklin and Brzezinski chatted about how women can rise to the top of their fields, getting over rejection, raising daughters, leading during a pandemic and more.
Below is their conversation, which has been edited for brevity and clarity:
Mika Brzezinski: You have a…